companies with -- child care providers, marriott international, mcdonald's, the university of wisconsin hospital and the university of new mexico hospitals. carol evans is president and ceo of working mother media. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me, peter. >> so, what is it about these companies that makes them the best? >> they're doing really important things for moms. first of all, there's 75 million hourly workers in the country and 61% of them are women. they're providing flexibility in what many people think is an unflexible work situation. but it turns out it's not completely unflexible. you can find ways to flex your day, your year, your whole career in an hourly setting. >> i was going to say, you've been ranking companies of this sort for years, but this is the first time with hourly workers. >> yes, all companies that ap y applied had to have at least 60% hourly employees. >> why is that so important? >> because today, companies really need their best employees at all levels and if you're only providing flexibility at the top level, management and above, then